In every panel with Danny, I have this visual hallucination that his fingers are wiggling creepily.
This is brilliant.
@Coyotenose: Not to mention the drooling.
So he had the dakimakura for RD, but I can imagine he had much, much more disturbing things for poor ‘Shy.
He had a hobo face, and a greasy, round belly,
That shook when he giggled, like a pit full of jelly.
For Flutter’s sake, they better have restraining orders in Equestria
Quick, hide Fluttershy!
And Sweetie Belle!
And the rest of the CMC too.
You know what? Hide everyone.
I laughed so hard it actually hurt.
Lots of people finding this surprisingly funny. They clearly weren’t around at any point in the last twenty years to see this same tired, stale joke lobbed disinterestedly at every single vaguely nerdy fandom.
And it’s a shame that this has happened again, because, as others have pointed out, there are plenty of wacky and stupid things that bronies have done that would make great fodder for jokes like this. But no! We *have* our dreary, overused shtick, and by gum we are *going* to stick to it!
@Coyotenose: Haha they do look that way, don’t they? XD
@Mr Casual: He had a Fluttershy fleshlight.
@Quietlythundering: Is your avatar Percy from Guttersnipe? I’m flattered! XD
@Limpurtikles: Hide your women, hide your children!
@Skoon: That’s the highest praise a cartoonist could ask for! XD
@Lublik: Actually, I’m very interested in hearing about these other stupid things that bronies have done differently than other nerd fandoms. Most of my experiences with other bronies seemed pretty similar to things other nerd groups have done, just with ponies instead. If you know of some incidents that would make good fodder for better jokes, please let me know!
@Lublik: If something is used over and over, and yet people can still find it funny, does that not fit the definition of a “classic theme”?
How many things can you find at TVTropes that have been used constantly, and are still used today in something popular? Bet more than a few. :)
Besides, just because others have done it, doesn’t mean Agouti has done it in Murry-Purry style. And that makes it funny and enjoyable to those of us that like this stuff.
@Mr. Casual: I suppose you’re right about the idea of a classic theme. However, there is something of a difference, to me at least, between a classic theme and the idea of repeating the same joke and simply switching the subject of it.
Let’s say that someone was attempting to parody disaster movies, this time with a ship that one of the passengers is forced to take command of in a crisis due to reason XYZ; that alone would count as something of a theme, hence why Z, A & Z were able to do it so effectively. But if said parody involved: a scene at the docks with hilariously over the top dramatic music, where announcers broadcast increasingly zany messages to the passengers; had the lead character be a person who’s never been on a ship since traumatic war event YZ, yet gets onto the ship due to a previous partner of theirs; a scene in which Shaquille O’Neill or similar was revealed to be on the bridge by a young fan of theirs; a scene in which food poisoning takes out the crew, and an inflatable dummy takes over; and had all of that underscored by smaller jokes such as an extra appearing to be hanging from the ceiling during a dramatic look moment, and had the ship sounding like a canal boat… well, you’d think someone was taking the piss.
And yes, you are correct about TVTropes; it wouldn’t exist if many elements of shows were not similar, or indeed virtually the same, albeit used in different ways. But again, many of these constantly used elements are at least given some degree of variety, be it by combining tropes in new and interesting ways, or putting those tropes into different situations, at the very least.
Then again, maybe I am being harsh; like you said, it can be “funny and enjoyable to those of us that like this stuff.” And, actually, I liked Megan’s part :)
To sum up my point:
Obsessive fan of XYZ = ‘common theme’, and could lead to something interesting :)
Obsessive, dishevelled, neck-bearded fan of XYZ who wears reference shirts the size of wedding marquees that are still too small for them, lives in a basement and has surrounded themselves in paraphernalia of XYZ = boring, done-to-death joke. And not only has it been done to death when it has parodied fans of whatever sci-fi, anime, video games, and, more recently, ‘nostalgia show’ is relevant of the time, it’s not even new for bronies: college humor’s first video concerning bronies could have just as easily applied to, say, Evangelion obsessives with a simple swapping of references, and a change to the one joke that actually made me laugh.
@ Agouti-Rex: …
I’ll be honest; I wrote that without thinking about it too hard. And now that I have, the ideas of the fans hounding the voice artists everywhere they go, such as Ashleigh Ball and her Hey Ocean concerts, the forum battles pitched over whether or not the recent spin-off deserves to have the name of the show attached to it, and the knowledge that there are at least two people who have changed their names to include Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash, respectively, suddenly don’t seem quite so unique. ;)
I think the one unique aspect that the brony fandom has is its speed, particularly regarding the creation of fan work and ‘world building’. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2VhC1QF7ww) is a recent example of such; isn’t even a part of the show, and yet within a week it had inspired a veritable carpet-bombing of spin-off material.
I’ll agree there’s something to be said for the “fat, over-obsessed neckbeard” portrayal of fandom being done to death and a bit hackneyed in its own right, but Agouti’s style is to take such an idea and go so hilariously over-the-top with it that it becomes hilarious again. At least in my view.
This is a character that has been portrayed in-canon for MLP past, someone who has actually _been_ to “Ponyland”, someone who was once portrayed as a hero and a noble soul. This person becoming one of said fat, over-obsessed neckbeard fans, living in a _barn_ basement of all things, having 95% of his surroundings being pony-related (even furniture and things one wouldn’t normally ascribe to fandom), having dakimakuras and now apparently fleshlights ( XD ), wanting to go back primarily so he can perv and skeeve at the ponies, and especially Fluttershy . . .
It’s just so incredibly exaggerated and excessive that it becomes funny again. :D
And that, to me, is Agouti’s style. Take an idea and run with it, slam into a brick wall, go through the brick wall, smash around a lot, bring the house down, crawl from the wreckage, drag the disgusting remains down the street, and then throw it right into the face of a flabbergasted, sputtering aristocrat while mooning the audience, all with a friendly smile and a wave because it’s all in good fun! :D
Not to mention we haven’t seen Molly yet. The youngest and cutest one will probably wind up being an over-dramatic Disney villain, or something. Also an idea done to death, but I bet it’ll still be hilarious.
All that said, what you mention is also probably quite ripe for the plucking, too. X)
“This is a character that has been portrayed in-canon for MLP past, someone who has actually _been_ to “Ponyland”, someone who was once portrayed as a hero and a noble soul. This person becoming one of said fat, over-obsessed neckbeard fans, living in a _barn_ basement of all things, having 95% of his surroundings being pony-related (even furniture and things one wouldn’t normally ascribe to fandom), having dakimakuras and now apparently fleshlights ( XD ), wanting to go back primarily so he can perv and skeeve at the ponies, and especially Fluttershy . . ”
Sorry… but, aside from the fact that it’s Danny from the original show (which is something of a new idea, I’ll give you), this basically describes CollegeHumor’s portrayal of the fandom, right down to the fleshlight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p6LVZFLSfw
From a year and a half ago.
I’m sorry; I’m trying not to be down on this. I’m all for a good parody, but… seen one overweight neck-bearded BLUUUH, seen them all.
I just wish there was space for a *new* obsessive fan parody. Perhaps some sort of Jekyll/Hyde reference, in which we see an apparently normal, somewhat quiet person going about their daily life, who at the slightest dismissive mention of ponies by a coworker next appears on-page a demented, dribbling monster, with gorilla arms and a frown like they’re trying to eat their nose, ready to blast THOSE WHO BESMIRCH THE NAME OF THEIR PRECIOUS CUDDLEMUFFIN!
Or something like that ;)
Having said that, given what you’ve said of Agouti’s style, I now eagerly await the arrival of Molly ^_^
Ah, but the whole point of it _being_ Danny is what saves it, in my opinion. :)
Besides which, not all of us have been exposed to this stereotype to the point of oversaturation. I can count on one hand the number of CollegeHumor videos I can recall seeing, heh.
(I also still fully enjoy zombies as a video game antagonist, so maybe that says something about my tolerance levels being abnormally high, who knows.)
But! You are, of course, entitled to your tastes and preferences, and at least the atmosphere remains civil. Hopefully you can still enjoy all the craziness _around_ Danny. X)
“Ah, but the whole point of it _being_ Danny is what saves it, in my opinion. :)”
Actually… now that I think about it, the fact that it is Danny does open a pretty big window of comedic possibility. Granted, it is still a window that overlooks the paddling pool of ‘HE A NECK-BE-YERD, DURHURHUR’ jokes, but it doesn’t look like Agouti’s going to be circling it for too long :)
And you’re right; it’s all down to personal taste in comedy, and this comic itself is no exception. I can think of many stupid and quite obviously overused gags that I can’t help but crease-up at XD
So thanks for putting up with the rants that I’ve foisted upon you, and I’ll try to be a bit less dreary as we all enjoy the rest of the comic ^_^
@Mr Casual: Thanks for the kind words!
@Lublik: I totally get where you’re coming from. Parody is much funnier when you can tell that the parodist really KNOWS the target. I like to say that the best parodies are ones that pick out aspects of the target that you never even thought about before but as soon as they’re pointed out, you go “Oh yeah, totally! That’s so true!” The best example that I can think of off the top of my head is the Star Trek parody episode of Futurama, not sure if you’ve seen that one. I mention it because Star Trek is something that’s been parodied to death and every cartoon/sitcom/comic/stand-up comedian has their own routine about it. But the thing is, most people are only really familiar with Star Trek through cultural osmosis, so they things that they THINK they know about the source material are really things that have sort of become “fact” through successive parodies of the source material. In the matter of Stark Trek, everyone “knows” how red shirts frequently get killed in Star Trek. But the fact of the matter is that, if you actually watch the old Star Trek series, red shirt deaths are fairly uncommon. Red shirt deaths have become an accepted fact of Star Trek lore just because parodists keep stealing their material from earlier parodists without actually checking to see if that accurately reflects the source material. The Futurama parody was impressive because it avoided a lot of the obvious Star Trek jokes and instead looked back at the source material to find something that was not only fairly fresh but also spot on. Instead of red shirt deaths, Futurama mocked Star Trek’s reliance on “energy being” villains. If yo watch old Trek, they meet energy beings constantly — probbaly because it was a low budget show and it was easy to create a cheap energy being effect by shining a flashlight on the wall. However, very few early Star Trek mockers seem to have picked up on that particular cliche and thus it never really entered our collective unconciousness.
Anyway, that’s a long way of saying, yeah, I get what you’re saying, how generic nerd jokes are low-hanging fruit and miss the potential for truly biting brony mockery. My main defense is that I just didn’t want to get too bogged down in brony bashing; my initial idea was basically just “Hook” with ponies and when I tried to imagine what the 80s kids would be as adults, I was tickled by the idea that Danny’s formative Ponyland experiences would make him a brony, but I didn’t really delve too deeply into what that would really mean. There are a lot of possibilities for very deeply cutting satire in bronydom, so hopefully some of the future strips will be a little more on-point.
I don’t think I’ve had a discussion like this with someone who has been so understanding and fantastic, right down to citing a great episode of Futurama* as an example! :D
Now that you’ve mentioned your Hook idea, and that the whole gag was more of a side-thing, I kind of feel as though I jumped the gun with my first few posts; sorry for being quite so… blunt back then, and good luck with those future strips :)
(* As it happens, I have seen that episode; I didn’t realise quite how heavily it was satirising the early episodes, as someone who has hasn’t watched any of the original Star Trek. But as it went above and beyond the usual Trek parody, like you said, it still stood out to me, as well as being hilarious on its own merits :) )
@Lublik: It’s all good, you raise some legitimate points. I get frustrated when other people produce off-point parodies, so I would be a hypocrite if I couldn’t admit that I’ve sort of been doing the same thing. There are a couple more of these jokes in the pipeline, but once we get to the bits with Chysalis it should hopefully be more entertaining.
Well, that unescalated quickly.
How am I supposed to get my daily dose of Internet Drama*? You people are so damn insensitive to the needs of others. Guess I’ll go visit Pharyngula… no wait, I stopped bothering with them because the in-crowd libels people when they don’t have a “real” target, and the bossman won’t tell them to not libel people because freeze peach. (which might be why he is now facing a probable libel suit for rape claims…)
Well, anyone know a good place to satisfy a daily fetish for inane shrieking by intelligent people?
*It amuses me that the acronym for this term is “id”.
@Coyotenose: 4Chan? YouTube comments? Oh, wait, intelligent people . . . hmm . . .
I didn’t think intelligent people would partake of inane shrieking. MIT message boards? NASA forums? Nobel Committee BBS? :D
@Agouti-Rex: You wot? Chrysalis in your style? Oh, you’re doubling-down on the possible-awesome, now!
Mr. Casual: Every website needs a Herp Derp translator. It should be required by law.
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